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    Episode 34
    September 24, 2026

    Trust as Infrastructure: Who Your AI Travel Agent Actually Works For

    Eric Leopold, Christopher Olivares, Mike Putman, Nancy Li Smith, Fred Bean, Jim Hetzel, CEO, threedot; Founder, Elyo; CEO & Founder, Custom Travel Solutions; CEO & Founder, Boop; Founder & CEO, HotelPORT; Retailing Strategy, TWAI

    Everyone is racing to build the AI agent that books your trip, and nobody is building the thing that makes it safe to use one. Six guests from across travel and aviation, each working a different corner of the problem, independently arrived at the same diagnosis: agentic travel has a trust problem, not a model problem. Together they unpack who an AI travel agent really works for, how travelers would ever know, and what institution would need to exist to make it right when something goes wrong.

    Agentic Trust Infrastructure
    Dual Agency Problem
    AI Fraud Risk
    Distribution Economics

    Show Notes

    This themed episode brings together six voices who reached the same conclusion from completely different starting points. Eric Leopold, an IATA veteran of fifteen years responsible for the barcode on today's boarding passes, frames the core problem: travel collapsed the buyer's agent and the seller's agent into a single intermediary, a structure advertising would never permit, and one that AI could finally undo, because an assistant paid for by the traveler can genuinely work for the traveler. Christopher Olivares, solo founder of Elyo, a conversational flight search tool built in Paris, came from the OECD with no travel industry background and made a deliberate structural choice to stay bootstrapped and free of commissions, illustrating that supposedly free OTA platforms are not free at all: their costs surface in hotel pricing passed to travelers. Mike Putman, who launched one of the first online travel agency stacks in 1996 and now runs Custom Travel Solutions providing AI and human agents access to bed bank inventory, argues the market corrects itself and that OTA brands risk being routed around entirely as personal agents learn traveler preferences. Nancy Li Smith, who built the AI platform behind Meta's Ray-Ban glasses before founding social travel recommendation app Boop, found that unsourced model outputs prompt users to question legitimacy, and that social trust, meaning recommendations from people with a reputation on the line, consistently outperforms raw model quality. Fred Bean of HotelPORT warns that traveler fraud is already happening at human speed today, with fake hotel sites outranking real properties on their own brand names, and calls for a shift away from booking on price alone toward selling on attributes. Jim Hetzel, a career airline distribution and back office IT specialist at TWAI, closes the loop by quantifying what happens to look to book economics when billions of bots replace human searchers, and identifying the missing institution: an electronic equivalent of IATA providing identity, authority, enforcement, settlement, and dispute resolution for agent to agent commerce at a scale the industry has never seen.

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